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=== Is Breadbox only a Commodore Simulator? ===
=== Is Breadbox only a Commodore Simulator? ===


'''No''', but at the moment, '''yes'''.
Currently, '''yes''', but the project has ambitions to incorporate additional computers, extending beyond the Commodore brand.


In the end, the project aims to include all other vintage computers as well.
The actual progress of this goal hinges on the level of support it receives. The project’s expansion is contingent upon sufficient funding.


''And since it's a bit of a laborous task, progress depends a lot on the support it receives.''
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=== Are there going to be more computers and peripherals? ===


=== Computer power up takes some time ===
We hope so. It basically depends on how much interest and sales there is for this. Funding for this Project depends on the number of users.


When you power on for the first time after installing or updating a new emulator, it may be a little slower. Subsequent startups should be faster.
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=== Computer does not start (emulator is installed) ===
=== Computer power-up takes some time ===


Try first to shut down the simulated computer and then switch it back ON. If that doesn't solve the problem, exit the ''Simulator view'' and try again.
When you power on for the first time after installing or updating a new emulator, it may be a little slower. Subsequent startups should be faster.
 
Next steps to try are: Restart the Breadbox, Reboot your PC.


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=== Game Controller doesn't work ===
=== Computer does not start (emulator is installed) ===


If your controller is supported, then usually this happens if you plugin your controller when the emulator (the simulated computer) is already running. In that case, re-start the simulated computer.
First, attempt to power off the simulated computer, and then turn it back on. If this doesn’t resolve the issue, '''exit the Simulator view''' and give it another try.


Then, if the problem continues, check if your controller is linked to virtual joystick. In ''Simulator view'' open '''Settings - Input settings''' to see if it is selected. Verify also that the correct virtual joystick plug is attached to the computer in the ''Simulator view''.
Next, consider '''restarting the Breadbox''' or performing a '''reboot of your PC'''.


If the problem still persists, detach/attach the joystick plug and verify if you need to use a different control port (C64). Sometimes the classic power OFF and ON (simulated computer) might help.
''Note! This issue also arises on the Steam Deck. The Steam Deck runs on Linux, which is '''currently not supported'''.''
 
Also, don't forget to check the known issues related to your controller on [[Manual#Breadbox_Game_Controller_support|Breadbox Game Controller support]] section.


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=== Simulator view responds slowly on user actions / Animations stutter ===
=== Splash screen is blank / computers are not visible in the simulator view ===


Breadbox requires an efficient graphics card when used with default graphics settings. It's very likely that your graphics card is not powerful enough for default settings.
Your computer’s '''graphics card''' falls short of the requirements needed to run '''BreadBox'''.


Test with a different graphics settings and see how it affects the performance. Graphics settings are available on ''Main menu'' page in ''Setup'' panel. Try a lower resolution and with graphics quality set to ''Low''.
Breadbox will only work on GPUs that support DirectX 11 with Shader Model 5.0 or higher.


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=== Computer doesn't register all my key presses and responds are slow ===
=== Game Controller doesn't work ===


This is also related to graphics card performance and perhaps also to CPU performance. If the graphics card is not efficient enough for Breadbox, it starts to affect other functions.
If your controller is supported, then usually this happens if you plug in your controller when the emulator (the simulated computer) is already running. In that case, restart the simulated computer.


Lowering the graphics settings, e.g. resolution, may have a big impact. Zooming to monitor close up view will also help on this issue.
If the problem persists, verify whether your controller is '''connected''' to a virtual joystick. In ''Simulator view'' open '''Settings - Input settings''' to see if it is selected. Verify also that the correct virtual joystick '''plug is attached''' to the computer in the ''Simulator view''.


Unfortunately, this problem strongly indicates that your current graphics card and/or CPU performance of your computer is not sufficient for this software.
If the problem still persists, detach/attach the joystick plug and verify if you need to use a different control port (C64). Sometimes the classic power OFF and ON (simulated computer) might help.
 
Also, don't forget to check the known issues related to your controller in the [[Manual#Breadbox_Game_Controller_support|Breadbox Game Controller support]] section.


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=== Keyboard input lag ===
=== Simulator view responds slowly to user actions / Animations stutter ===


When using the Breadbox with the ''recommended hardware'', we haven't experienced any serious input lag
'''Breadbox''' requires an '''efficient graphics card'''. Please refer to the '''minimum system requirements'''.
which would affect normal use, including gaming. However it's a fact that there is more delay in input as well
as in output when comparing to plain emulator usage.


If you experience input lag when using the Breadbox, it likely belongs to one of the following categories.
Test with different graphics settings and see how it affects the performance. '''Graphics settings''' are accessible on the '''Main page''' within the '''Setup''' panel. Try to '''lower the resolution''', set graphics quality to '''Low''' and decrease the frame rate to 30 FPS.


====1. Hardware requirements====
You can also try removing unused items from the view. For example, the cassette has been reported to cause performance issues with lower-end graphics cards.


:It is known that Breadbox requires high-performance hardware in terms of CPU and GPU. Our tests with various hardware and feedback from users have shown that when the hardware is not sufficient, it significantly affects the input delay.
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:You should try to lower graphics quality and screen resolution. Graphics settings are on the setup panel in Breadbox Main Menu.
:If that doesn't help with this issue, check if the problem is related to other categories here.
 
====2. Audio visual effect delay====
 
:In Breadbox there is a difference between the input signal sent to the emulator and between audio-visual effects. Audio-visual effect is the sound and animation of the keyboard key press. When the key press of the real keyboard press starts, it is not possible to start the audio-visual effect in real time, and its execution can be seen and heard quite clearly with a small delay. As the human perception is strongly affected by everything we see and hear, this may create a strong experience of an input lag. Dispite the fact that the actual input signal is registered and displayed on the virtual monitor much much faster than what the audio-visual experience from the effects are.
 
:The simple solution is to disable the keyboard sound simulation. It will disable the sounds of key presses from the Breadbox when using the PC-keyboard. But the sounds will still work when you use the mouse to click on virtual keys. You can disable the keyboard sounds from each of the computer from the setup panel in the simulator view, just uncheck the option: ''keyboard sound simulation''.
 
====3. It's a bug====
 
:There is always the possibility that the problem is caused by a software bug. Please try to analyze how does it occur and is it still an issue after you restart everything.
 
:Regardless, please report the problem to us.


====4. Normal input lag====
=== keyboard input lag (The computer doesn't register all my key presses and responses are slow) ===


:If the other three options are not effective, then it must be the normal input lag?
This is usually related to graphics card performance and perhaps also to CPU performance. If the graphics card is not efficient enough for Breadbox, it starts to affect other functions.


:This means it is just a normal feature of the product. The normal input lag accumulates from the input (the key press) to the output (what you see in the monitor). Relaying signals requires a little extra work from the software. And perhaps it can be further improved in the future.
Lowering the graphics settings, e.g. resolution, frame rate, or graphics quality, may have a big impact.


:In our experience, it really isn't affecting the normal use, so we consider it a normal feature. But we'll leave the judgment to you, the user. If you experience that the normal input lag is too high, please report it.
Regrettably, this may indicate that the performance of your graphics card and/or CPU is inadequate to run this software effectively. Please let us know if this is not the case.


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Latest revision as of 10:52, 28 March 2024

Is Breadbox only a Commodore Simulator?

Currently, yes, but the project has ambitions to incorporate additional computers, extending beyond the Commodore brand.

The actual progress of this goal hinges on the level of support it receives. The project’s expansion is contingent upon sufficient funding.


Are there going to be more computers and peripherals?

We hope so. It basically depends on how much interest and sales there is for this. Funding for this Project depends on the number of users.


Computer power-up takes some time

When you power on for the first time after installing or updating a new emulator, it may be a little slower. Subsequent startups should be faster.


Computer does not start (emulator is installed)

First, attempt to power off the simulated computer, and then turn it back on. If this doesn’t resolve the issue, exit the Simulator view and give it another try.

Next, consider restarting the Breadbox or performing a reboot of your PC.

Note! This issue also arises on the Steam Deck. The Steam Deck runs on Linux, which is currently not supported.


Splash screen is blank / computers are not visible in the simulator view

Your computer’s graphics card falls short of the requirements needed to run BreadBox.

Breadbox will only work on GPUs that support DirectX 11 with Shader Model 5.0 or higher.


Game Controller doesn't work

If your controller is supported, then usually this happens if you plug in your controller when the emulator (the simulated computer) is already running. In that case, restart the simulated computer.

If the problem persists, verify whether your controller is connected to a virtual joystick. In Simulator view open Settings - Input settings to see if it is selected. Verify also that the correct virtual joystick plug is attached to the computer in the Simulator view.

If the problem still persists, detach/attach the joystick plug and verify if you need to use a different control port (C64). Sometimes the classic power OFF and ON (simulated computer) might help.

Also, don't forget to check the known issues related to your controller in the Breadbox Game Controller support section.


Simulator view responds slowly to user actions / Animations stutter

Breadbox requires an efficient graphics card. Please refer to the minimum system requirements.

Test with different graphics settings and see how it affects the performance. Graphics settings are accessible on the Main page within the Setup panel. Try to lower the resolution, set graphics quality to Low and decrease the frame rate to 30 FPS.

You can also try removing unused items from the view. For example, the cassette has been reported to cause performance issues with lower-end graphics cards.


keyboard input lag (The computer doesn't register all my key presses and responses are slow)

This is usually related to graphics card performance and perhaps also to CPU performance. If the graphics card is not efficient enough for Breadbox, it starts to affect other functions.

Lowering the graphics settings, e.g. resolution, frame rate, or graphics quality, may have a big impact.

Regrettably, this may indicate that the performance of your graphics card and/or CPU is inadequate to run this software effectively. Please let us know if this is not the case.